Democratic state Sen. Emil Jones III told FBI agents who knocked on his door in September 2019 that he never felt “comfortable” talking to his longtime colleague, then-state Sen. Martin Sandoval, particularly about a red light camera company executive who wanted to be his “friend.”
“Because he’s an intimidating guy, you know?” Jones said about Sandoval on the morning of Sept. 24, 2019, the day the FBI raided Sandoval’s offices in Springfield along with more than a dozen other locations. “And you hear rumors about him…that he’s just shady.”
In the recorded interview, which was played for the jury in Jones’ bribery trial Tuesday, the agents pointed out Jones’ claimed trepidation about Sandoval didn’t stop him from sitting down for a steak dinner with Sandoval and Omar Maani, the co-founder of SafeSpeed LLC, to talk about how he could compensate Jones in exchange for his help on legislation in Springfield.
Didn’t Jones ask Maani specifically to raise $5,000 for his campaign? Didn’t he ask Maani to hire his former intern? And didn’t he offer to “protect” SafeSpeed from state Rep. David McSweeney, a staunch opponent to red light cameras?
When Jones seemed to downplay what he’d said, the agents, Timothy O’Brien and Nijika Rustagi, laid their cards on the table: They had video of the entire thing.
“I don’t think it was as soft as that,” O’Brien warned Jones near the end of the 40-minute interview. “I think it was a little more direct. I certainly have the video with me where (you) said: ‘I’ll make sure I’ll take care of you guys with McSweeney…’.I’d be happy to play the video for you if you want.”
Jones was also warned by Rustagi that everything he said could be used in the federal grand jury and that if he lied he could be charged. When Rustagi asked if Jones wanted to change any of his answers based on that, Jones declined.
Then he joked: “After watching Trump for the last two years, I understand.”
Jones, 46, whose father, Emil Jones Jr., led the state Senate for years before orchestrating to have his son replace him in 2009, is charged with bribery, use of an interstate facility to solicit bribery and lying to federal agents. The most serious charge carries up to 10 years in prison, while the others have a five-year maximum term.
According to the charges, Jones agreed to accept $5,000 in campaign funding from Maani in exchange for Jones’ help with legislation in Springfield. Jones also asked Maani to give his former office intern a part-time job, which led to $1,800 being paid to the intern in exchange for no work. the charges alleged.
Jones is the first sitting member of the state General Assembly to face trial at the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse in nearly a decade. If convicted, Jones would be forced to resign under Illinois law and would almost certainly forfeit any future pension.
The roughly 40-minute interview played in its entirety Monday took place in Jones’ living room and was recorded without Jones’ knowledge, which O’Brien said was done in an effort to “facilitate an honest and truthful conversation” with the senator.
O’Brien testified Tuesday that when the interview concluded, he and his partner seized Jones’ cell phone pursuant to a search warrant and made a digital copy at the FBI offices. Later that day, O’Brien went back to Jones’ South Side home to return the phone.
Jones answered the door, O’Brien testified, and as he took back the phone, he said “something to the effect that he was chewed out by his dad and by his attorney for speaking to me.”
Five months later, Jones came in for another interview at the IRS offices across from Dirksen U.S. Courthouse, O’Brien said. This time, he had a lawyer participating by phone, and the purpose was for Jones to come clean and begin cooperating with the investigation, O’Brien testified.
Unlike in his previous interview, O’Brien said this time Jones was asked if he made any agreements with Omar Maani, “He acknowledged that he requested a job for (his intern) as well as a campaign contribution in exchange for changing the legislation.”
According to O’Brien, Jones admitted that he and Maani had specifically come up with the $5,000 figure at their July 2019 dinner, and that he knew the intern, Christopher Katz, was being paid even though Maani was not giving him work.
O’Brien said the interview moved on to “additional information” Jones may have “related to other topics for investigations we had or potential investigations.”
Jones was shown photos, made identifications “and provided information about those individuals and others,” he said.
Their next interview with Jones was in August 2021, when Jones had new attorneys, O’Brien testified. Jones continued to provide information unrelated to the facts of the SafeSpeed case, he said, though Jones was never considered to be “actively” cooperating.
Jones was charged a little over a year later via a criminal information, which typically indicates the defendant has an agreement with the U.S. attorney’s office to plead guilty. Instead, Jones took the case to trial.
The trial, which began last week, is nearing an end. Prosecutors said they plan to rest their case on Tuesday afternoon, and Jones’ lawyers have not revealed whether Jones will testify on his own behalf.
If he doesn’t, the defense case will take less than half a day, and U.S. District Judge Andrea Wood said closing arguments could come as soon as Wednesday.
jmeisner@chicagotribune.com